Comments on: The Initial Command http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2008/05/31/the-initial-command/ Questions through the veil of ignorance Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:08:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Ymarsakar http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2008/05/31/the-initial-command/comment-page-1/#comment-208102 Ymarsakar Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:33:30 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=2947#comment-208102 Or in other words, prejudice does not mean you have not judged. Or in other words, prejudice does not mean you have not judged.

]]> By: Lee http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2008/05/31/the-initial-command/comment-page-1/#comment-207736 Lee Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:22:25 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=2947#comment-207736 <p>>>Is it that unclear that I think both are symbolic? No, I didn't say that you didn't understand that both possessed symbolism, I said your <em>preference</em> for symbolism is selective, and as the contrasting examples demonstrate: selectively backwards.</p> >>Is it that unclear that I think both are symbolic?

No, I didn’t say that you didn’t understand that both possessed symbolism, I said your preference for symbolism is selective, and as the contrasting examples demonstrate: selectively backwards.

]]> By: Joshua Foust http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2008/05/31/the-initial-command/comment-page-1/#comment-207723 Joshua Foust Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:51:12 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=2947#comment-207723 <p>Oh you poor thing. Is it that unclear that I think both are symbolic? I must have missed the time that going on a US Army-guided tour of some streets with a full Brigade escort gave John McCain any better idea how the war is going than anyone else.</p> Oh you poor thing. Is it that unclear that I think both are symbolic? I must have missed the time that going on a US Army-guided tour of some streets with a full Brigade escort gave John McCain any better idea how the war is going than anyone else.

]]> By: Lee http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2008/05/31/the-initial-command/comment-page-1/#comment-207189 Lee Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:38:22 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=2947#comment-207189 <p>You've a selective preference for symbology, Joshua. Put a few iron gates and car traps up in front of an embassy and the entire American enterprise is gutted of appeal. But take a tour of the war zone and the heart of our national political dilemma, why that's just an empty gesture.</p> You’ve a selective preference for symbology, Joshua. Put a few iron gates and car traps up in front of an embassy and the entire American enterprise is gutted of appeal. But take a tour of the war zone and the heart of our national political dilemma, why that’s just an empty gesture.

]]> By: Joshua Foust http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2008/05/31/the-initial-command/comment-page-1/#comment-207183 Joshua Foust Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:23:49 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=2947#comment-207183 <p>Obama is right, though, it is just an empty stunt. McCain in particular should know, as he has the worst luck, with a rich track record of touring "safe" areas only to see them ripped apart by suicide bombs once he leaves. A politician will never get an honest look at the challenges in Iraq by touring FOBs and the Green Zone.</p> <p>But unfortunately, symbols and empty publicity stunts seem to matter a lot in politics. Obama is dumb not to just suck it up and go.</p> Obama is right, though, it is just an empty stunt. McCain in particular should know, as he has the worst luck, with a rich track record of touring “safe” areas only to see them ripped apart by suicide bombs once he leaves. A politician will never get an honest look at the challenges in Iraq by touring FOBs and the Green Zone.

But unfortunately, symbols and empty publicity stunts seem to matter a lot in politics. Obama is dumb not to just suck it up and go.

]]> By: Stella http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2008/05/31/the-initial-command/comment-page-1/#comment-206928 Stella Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:37:40 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=2947#comment-206928 I believe you are right on this one as Obama really needs to take the initiative and visit Iraq with or without McCain as it would be important for his campaign and to his policy. I believe you are right on this one as Obama really needs to take the initiative and visit Iraq with or without McCain as it would be important for his campaign and to his policy.

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