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		<title>By: peter jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think that, rather ironically, the whole “Joisey” slur comes from the way old-time New Yorkers used to say it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, if I remember correctly, it comes from a Joe Piscopo SNL bit. Piscopo is from NJ.

yours/
peter.</description>
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<p>Actually, if I remember correctly, it comes from a Joe Piscopo SNL bit. Piscopo is from NJ.</p>
<p>yours/<br />
peter.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You from Jersey? I&#039;m from Jersey! What exit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You from Jersey? I&#8217;m from Jersey! What exit?</p>
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		<title>By: John Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m from New Jersey (the southern part), and we are not such a homogeneous populace (viz “populous”, your word, although New Jersey is indeed the most densely populated state in America).

Nobody says “Joisey” down here. Perhaps it’s because we’re south of the Mason-Dixon Line?

We do seem to manage to elect leaders that make us the laughingstock of America, though, despite our best efforts. I have no explanation except that the Democratic political machine is well-entrenched here. For all I know, the cemetaries vote “early and often”.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Given that the Mason-Dixon Line was to settle a land dispute between Maryland and Pennsylvania, the line itself runs from the southwest corner of Delaware up to the NE corner of Maryland and then west from there. Thus, no one in New Jersey or Delaware actually lives below the Mason-Dixon Line despite their desire to be considered sons and daughters of the South. They are still Yankees and will always be Yankees though many could also be considered Damned Yankees.

See the map in wikipedia:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason-Dixon_Line

John
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m from New Jersey (the southern part), and we are not such a homogeneous populace (viz “populous”, your word, although New Jersey is indeed the most densely populated state in America).</p>
<p>Nobody says “Joisey” down here. Perhaps it’s because we’re south of the Mason-Dixon Line?</p>
<p>We do seem to manage to elect leaders that make us the laughingstock of America, though, despite our best efforts. I have no explanation except that the Democratic political machine is well-entrenched here. For all I know, the cemetaries vote “early and often”.
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<p>Given that the Mason-Dixon Line was to settle a land dispute between Maryland and Pennsylvania, the line itself runs from the southwest corner of Delaware up to the NE corner of Maryland and then west from there. Thus, no one in New Jersey or Delaware actually lives below the Mason-Dixon Line despite their desire to be considered sons and daughters of the South. They are still Yankees and will always be Yankees though many could also be considered Damned Yankees.</p>
<p>See the map in wikipedia:  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason-Dixon_Line" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason-Dixon_Line</a></p>
<p>John<br />
North Carolina</p>
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		<title>By: ZeeMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZeeMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the proper term is &quot;Joisey Joiks&quot;.  Common among those residing in the Gommorah to its immediate East.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the proper term is &#8220;Joisey Joiks&#8221;.  Common among those residing in the Gommorah to its immediate East.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think that, rather ironically, the whole “Joisey” slur comes from the way old-time New Yorkers used to say it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That was always how I understood it as well.  For my friends and I it was a way to make fun of NY, NJ and PA all at the same time ... of course, conveniently ignoring the &quot;Delaware diphthong&quot; that results in &quot;water&quot; sounding like &quot;woo-ut&#039;r&quot; and &quot;yeah&quot; like &quot;yaee&quot; ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think that, rather ironically, the whole “Joisey” slur comes from the way old-time New Yorkers used to say it.</p></blockquote>
<p>That was always how I understood it as well.  For my friends and I it was a way to make fun of NY, NJ and PA all at the same time &#8230; of course, conveniently ignoring the &#8220;Delaware diphthong&#8221; that results in &#8220;water&#8221; sounding like &#8220;woo-ut&#8217;r&#8221; and &#8220;yeah&#8221; like &#8220;yaee&#8221; <img src='http://asecondhandconjecture.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ron Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that, rather ironically, the whole &quot;Joisey&quot; slur comes from the way old-time New Yorkers used to say it.  The joke is not, or was not, so much mockery of how we supposedly talk, but how out of staters of supposedly superior caste view us.  The double irony, of course, is that New Yorkers of the social level who would employ such pronunciation were hardly in a position to look down their nose at anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that, rather ironically, the whole &#8220;Joisey&#8221; slur comes from the way old-time New Yorkers used to say it.  The joke is not, or was not, so much mockery of how we supposedly talk, but how out of staters of supposedly superior caste view us.  The double irony, of course, is that New Yorkers of the social level who would employ such pronunciation were hardly in a position to look down their nose at anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS doesn&#039;t make a sound now.  Oh, and by the way, New Jersey&#039;s governor is just now noticing that its over for the state as a &quot;law abiding&quot; place people might want to live in?  He is even worse than I thought!  The only thing they could do in New Jersey is fence it in and forget about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS doesn&#8217;t make a sound now.  Oh, and by the way, New Jersey&#8217;s governor is just now noticing that its over for the state as a &#8220;law abiding&#8221; place people might want to live in?  He is even worse than I thought!  The only thing they could do in New Jersey is fence it in and forget about it.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;... populace (viz “populous” ...).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good catch.  Fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230; populace (viz “populous” &#8230;).</p></blockquote>
<p>Good catch.  Fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: Randolph Resor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randolph Resor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m from New Jersey (the southern part), and we are not such a homogeneous populace (viz &quot;populous&quot;, your word, although New Jersey is indeed the most densely populated state in America).

Nobody says &quot;Joisey&quot; down here.  Perhaps it&#039;s because we&#039;re south of the Mason-Dixon Line?

We do seem to manage to elect leaders that make us the laughingstock of America, though, despite our best efforts.  I have no explanation except that the Democratic political machine is well-entrenched here.  For all I know, the cemetaries vote &quot;early and often&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from New Jersey (the southern part), and we are not such a homogeneous populace (viz &#8220;populous&#8221;, your word, although New Jersey is indeed the most densely populated state in America).</p>
<p>Nobody says &#8220;Joisey&#8221; down here.  Perhaps it&#8217;s because we&#8217;re south of the Mason-Dixon Line?</p>
<p>We do seem to manage to elect leaders that make us the laughingstock of America, though, despite our best efforts.  I have no explanation except that the Democratic political machine is well-entrenched here.  For all I know, the cemetaries vote &#8220;early and often&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would help if witnesses weren&#039;t treated like criminals.</description>
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		<title>By: MichaelW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelW</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“Joisey” is LAME. No one says Joisey, in Jersey.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, I know.  It&#039;s one of the things people in the states surrounding Jersey say to piss off those living in Jersey.  How do I know?  I grew up right outside Philly in Wilmington, DE.  Believe me, &quot;Joisey&quot; is a common slur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Joisey” is LAME. No one says Joisey, in Jersey.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, I know.  It&#8217;s one of the things people in the states surrounding Jersey say to piss off those living in Jersey.  How do I know?  I grew up right outside Philly in Wilmington, DE.  Believe me, &#8220;Joisey&#8221; is a common slur.</p>
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		<title>By: Pixelkiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pixelkiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doity Joisey may be thoroughly corrupt, but it ain&#039;t crazy like California. Corruption, afterall, has a sort of internal logic. Crazy, on the other hand is, er, unmanageable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doity Joisey may be thoroughly corrupt, but it ain&#8217;t crazy like California. Corruption, afterall, has a sort of internal logic. Crazy, on the other hand is, er, unmanageable?</p>
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		<title>By: FedupinNJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>FedupinNJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, we don&#039;t deserve any reprieve because we have allowed ourselves to become pretty much a one party state and a national laughingstock. We keep reelecting the same schmucks and we get what we deserve.

These urban hellholes are only one of the many problems here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, we don&#8217;t deserve any reprieve because we have allowed ourselves to become pretty much a one party state and a national laughingstock. We keep reelecting the same schmucks and we get what we deserve.</p>
<p>These urban hellholes are only one of the many problems here.</p>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
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		<description>&quot;Joisey&quot; is LAME. No one says Joisey, in Jersey. Do you watch the Soprano&#039;s? That is spot on for how local folks without care for proper diction would speak. Have you ever heard Tony and company utter &quot;Joisey?&quot; No. Please stop perpetuating this total, unsubstantiated myth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Joisey&#8221; is LAME. No one says Joisey, in Jersey. Do you watch the Soprano&#8217;s? That is spot on for how local folks without care for proper diction would speak. Have you ever heard Tony and company utter &#8220;Joisey?&#8221; No. Please stop perpetuating this total, unsubstantiated myth.</p>
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