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	<title>Comments on: News Brief, Through A Glass Darkly Edition</title>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m honestly forgetting when I said you couldn&#039;t criticize the CIA.

About Pakistan, I&#039;m of the firm belief that holding free, fair, and open elections will result in a democrat assuming the Presidency. If the government can then break the hold of the Army over domestic policy, and make it subordinate to the civilian government, I think it has a real chance of becoming a functional country. The problem is how to break the hold of the Army -- remember part of the reason Musharraf is in power now is because he tried to start a war in Kashmir, and the fallout humiliated Nawaz Sharif so much he couldn&#039;t resist the coup. There are several ways to break the Army&#039;s hold on the government, all of which require a tremendous amount of space and a great deal of research (i.e. more than is worth putting in here), but the point is, in broad strokes, a series of solutions for &quot;what to do&quot; could be laid out.... a courtesy the Economist doesn&#039;t seem to consider necessary to extend to its readers these days.

And about Simon&#039;s post - he changed what his post was after he realized he didn&#039;t have a case. It was complaining about Jonathan Chait&#039;s non-response, and once he realized Chait&#039;s essay was written before the Miniter piece, he had to change it to a general critique of TNR. That last bit is probably valid, but it doesn&#039;t make Simon&#039;s case any better, considering his complaint was that &quot;real&quot; journalists are sloppy and don&#039;t do their homework.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m honestly forgetting when I said you couldn&#8217;t criticize the CIA.</p>
<p>About Pakistan, I&#8217;m of the firm belief that holding free, fair, and open elections will result in a democrat assuming the Presidency. If the government can then break the hold of the Army over domestic policy, and make it subordinate to the civilian government, I think it has a real chance of becoming a functional country. The problem is how to break the hold of the Army &#8212; remember part of the reason Musharraf is in power now is because he tried to start a war in Kashmir, and the fallout humiliated Nawaz Sharif so much he couldn&#8217;t resist the coup. There are several ways to break the Army&#8217;s hold on the government, all of which require a tremendous amount of space and a great deal of research (i.e. more than is worth putting in here), but the point is, in broad strokes, a series of solutions for &#8220;what to do&#8221; could be laid out&#8230;. a courtesy the Economist doesn&#8217;t seem to consider necessary to extend to its readers these days.</p>
<p>And about Simon&#8217;s post &#8211; he changed what his post was after he realized he didn&#8217;t have a case. It was complaining about Jonathan Chait&#8217;s non-response, and once he realized Chait&#8217;s essay was written before the Miniter piece, he had to change it to a general critique of TNR. That last bit is probably valid, but it doesn&#8217;t make Simon&#8217;s case any better, considering his complaint was that &#8220;real&#8221; journalists are sloppy and don&#8217;t do their homework.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You need to respond to hit pieces before they’re published, or your magazine is skirting the issue!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That particular complaint about his piece may not be valid but that is hardly the thrust of people&#039;s issue with his post, and it has been acknowledged by Simon (the losers game is the fact that most wouldn&#039;t acknowledge it) and his acknowledgment points out his complaint is still valid about the TNR&#039;s handling of it in general (nothing about responding before it was published, but after) and the main thrust of the complaint against the piece still stands. If I point out to an editor the day after a football game that they got the name of the player who fumbled wrong, I don&#039;t get to act as if they should retract the whole story including who won or lost. Simon had a point challenged, he dealt with it.

In fact, might I argue that when you do handle something correctly and people ridicule you, in defense of people who have handled things atrociously, that that is why politics has become a losers game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You need to respond to hit pieces before they’re published, or your magazine is skirting the issue!</p></blockquote>
<p>That particular complaint about his piece may not be valid but that is hardly the thrust of people&#8217;s issue with his post, and it has been acknowledged by Simon (the losers game is the fact that most wouldn&#8217;t acknowledge it) and his acknowledgment points out his complaint is still valid about the TNR&#8217;s handling of it in general (nothing about responding before it was published, but after) and the main thrust of the complaint against the piece still stands. If I point out to an editor the day after a football game that they got the name of the player who fumbled wrong, I don&#8217;t get to act as if they should retract the whole story including who won or lost. Simon had a point challenged, he dealt with it.</p>
<p>In fact, might I argue that when you do handle something correctly and people ridicule you, in defense of people who have handled things atrociously, that that is why politics has become a losers game.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe they’ll hire me as a correspondent to rectify this.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have asked before, and while I don&#039;t expect much (nothing against you, thus my question is to you.) I just think it is a bunch of very tough calls. So here it goes, what to do about Pakistan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe they’ll hire me as a correspondent to rectify this.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have asked before, and while I don&#8217;t expect much (nothing against you, thus my question is to you.) I just think it is a bunch of very tough calls. So here it goes, what to do about Pakistan?</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So the CIA is indeed capable of self-criticism. That’s nice. My question is: what have they done to correct these obvious flaws since? If the classified sections of the report don’t answer this, then it’s still a big ol’ waste of time, for they now know just how deeply ineffective they are… that is to say, no better than psychics.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So you get to criticize the CIA, but I don&#039;t. I get it, I see the score. I am now going to go and sulk in my room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So the CIA is indeed capable of self-criticism. That’s nice. My question is: what have they done to correct these obvious flaws since? If the classified sections of the report don’t answer this, then it’s still a big ol’ waste of time, for they now know just how deeply ineffective they are… that is to say, no better than psychics.</p></blockquote>
<p>So you get to criticize the CIA, but I don&#8217;t. I get it, I see the score. I am now going to go and sulk in my room.</p>
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