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	<title>Comments on: Matthew Yglesias&#8217; undeserved moral and intellectual smugness-Updated</title>
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		<title>By: The Poet Omar</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Poet Omar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 14:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Wouldnâ€™t you expect the same people who are urging a unilateral and immediate withdrawal to be urging military intervention to end this carnage? I would.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And that strikes me as one of the many unsupportable positions that those on the left (and some on the right) have taken.  You cannot demand intervention in Yugoslavia, Darfur, etc. whilst simultaneously opposing it in Iraq.  Either we are the world&#039;s policemen or we are not.  Isolationism v. adventurism.  Human rights, WMD&#039;s, etc. are merely the legal semantics that we use to justify military adventurism.  I don&#039;t necessarily disagree that some of these causes are most assuredly &quot;just,&quot; but then I haven&#039;t been an opponent of the war in Iraq nor an advocate of isolationism, either.  This reminds me very much of the one-time hugely popular, &quot;I oppose the war, but support the troops,&quot; meme.  That one seems to have finally died out as most of those spouting it have now shown their true colors.  There are most assuredly advantages and disadvantages to being either isolationist or interventionist.  We cannot be both, however.  Why can&#039;t many on the left (and a few on the right) understand this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wouldnâ€™t you expect the same people who are urging a unilateral and immediate withdrawal to be urging military intervention to end this carnage? I would.</p></blockquote>
<p>And that strikes me as one of the many unsupportable positions that those on the left (and some on the right) have taken.  You cannot demand intervention in Yugoslavia, Darfur, etc. whilst simultaneously opposing it in Iraq.  Either we are the world&#8217;s policemen or we are not.  Isolationism v. adventurism.  Human rights, WMD&#8217;s, etc. are merely the legal semantics that we use to justify military adventurism.  I don&#8217;t necessarily disagree that some of these causes are most assuredly &#8220;just,&#8221; but then I haven&#8217;t been an opponent of the war in Iraq nor an advocate of isolationism, either.  This reminds me very much of the one-time hugely popular, &#8220;I oppose the war, but support the troops,&#8221; meme.  That one seems to have finally died out as most of those spouting it have now shown their true colors.  There are most assuredly advantages and disadvantages to being either isolationist or interventionist.  We cannot be both, however.  Why can&#8217;t many on the left (and a few on the right) understand this?</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 14:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If he doesnâ€™t watch it, heâ€™ll end up a watered-down Glenn Grennwald with smoother prose.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I hope not. Around here that is &lt;a href=&quot;http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?cat=31&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pretty stiff criticism&lt;/a&gt;. I still count myself a fan, but...well, I already said it. No need for me to pile on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If he doesnâ€™t watch it, heâ€™ll end up a watered-down Glenn Grennwald with smoother prose.</p></blockquote>
<p>I hope not. Around here that is <a href="http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?cat=31" rel="nofollow">pretty stiff criticism</a>. I still count myself a fan, but&#8230;well, I already said it. No need for me to pile on.</p>
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		<title>By: T-web</title>
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		<dc:creator>T-web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 13:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot-on. Yglesias has always struck me as never getting past the point of infatuation with his own intellect. He has a too-smart 17 year old&#039;s sense of anointedness, with is pretty obnoxious for someone several years out of college. He might have been able to get away with his smarminess while blogging solo or even at Tapped, but he&#039;s risen up high enough in the blogosphere that he&#039;s going to get called on it, along with his inconsistencies and point-scoring. If he doesn&#039;t watch it, he&#039;ll end up a watered-down Glenn Grennwald with smoother prose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot-on. Yglesias has always struck me as never getting past the point of infatuation with his own intellect. He has a too-smart 17 year old&#8217;s sense of anointedness, with is pretty obnoxious for someone several years out of college. He might have been able to get away with his smarminess while blogging solo or even at Tapped, but he&#8217;s risen up high enough in the blogosphere that he&#8217;s going to get called on it, along with his inconsistencies and point-scoring. If he doesn&#8217;t watch it, he&#8217;ll end up a watered-down Glenn Grennwald with smoother prose.</p>
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