How to Piss Off a Hippie

People who love music sometimes identify a little too closely with the musicians/songs they love, to the point that any criticism of those musicians/songs becomes, in the music lover’s mind, a personal attack. That’s true even if the music lover himself had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of the music, which is usually the case.

Actually, that’s always the case. If somebody tells Bono, “Everything U2 has done since The Unforgettable Fire is crap,” Bono isn’t going to waste an ounce of energy worrying about that stranger’s opinion. He would be like, “Whatever, dude,” and go off to start a new fashion foundation for the hungry or something. But say the same thing to Obsessive U2 Fan and he will question your motives, insult your taste, ask how many times you were dropped on the head as an infant, and prepare a determined counterattack designed to prove that you are a complete idiot. Because, you see, if you’re not, then guess who the idiot is?

Full disclosure: Yes, I have been guilty of this bizarre behavior, too. But this post isn’t about my idiocy, it’s about the shortcomings of others.

One time when I was living in Philadelphia, I was sitting at a bar next to a gentleman who happened to be very personally invested in the music of Bob Dylan. I was able to detect this because his superpower was obviously the ability to make Bob Dylan the subject of the conversation, no matter what the opening gambit was. (My superpower is the ability to avoid fistfights by talking my way out of them, but that’s a topic for another time.) Anyway, his superpower was beginning to annoy the hell out of me, so I tried this: “Man, Bob Dylan is so overrated. I’m a better songwriter than Bob Dylan.”

Predictably, that flustered the man, who no doubt had endured many criticisms of Dylan’s lack of vocal range, his uneven creative output, his easily mocked persona, etc. Mr. Dylan Fan probably had some great counterarguments to all of those things, but they were just as probably boring.

Of course my claim (to be a better songwriter than Bob Dylan) was ridiculous. I may as well have claimed to be a better dictator than Stalin, except that I have actually written some songs, and I have yet to try out dictating. Anyway, a wilier opponent would have put the burden on me to defend such a ridiculous claim. Instead, he could only sputter incredulously about Dylan’s place as the greatest songwriter of all time and blah blah blah.

So I gave him a task: I borrowed a pen from the bartender, grabbed some bar napkins, and told him to write down ten lines from Bob Dylan songs that he considered great. This had the unforeseen benefit of making him shut up for a long time while he considered which of the thousands of lines from Bob Dylan songs would most decisively expose my idiocy for all the world to ridicule.

What he did not know was that it made no difference at all which lines he selected and carefully wrote down on the bar napkins, because I had already prepared my responses:
1) “That’s crap.”
2) “Juvenile.”
3) “Completely derivative.”
4) “This doesn’t even rhyme.”
5) “I guess this one’s OK, except Abba expressed it much better.”
And so on. Winner of the argument? ME!

The ironic part is, the situation was setting up perfectly to give me a chance to use my superpower, except I had forgotten that I was arguing with a hippie. Ah, I wasn’t in the mood to almost fight or barely avoid a severe beating anyway.

[tags] Bob Dylan, Songwriting, U2 [/tags]

This entry was posted in Culture, Humor, Music, Robby's Page. Bookmark the permalink.

7 Responses to How to Piss Off a Hippie

  1. bains says:

    A good metaphor for much of what comprises ‘political discussions’ these days.

  2. Robby says:

    That works, too. “Mr. Winger/Moonbat, I am so personally offended by your beliefs that I have already prepared my responses to you, no matter what you say.”

  3. Billy Hollis says:

    I saw this phenomenon recently when I posted a review of a music DVD on amazon. The essence of my review was that the music was great but the video editing and production were horrible. Therefore, the DVD is not a particularly great purchase, even though I like the band a lot.

    The band’s fanboys rose in defense, and the DVD is pastered with 5 star reviews talking how great the music is. Well, yeah, but it’s a DVD! If the video sucks, who needs it? (They mostly avoided talking about the video production, because it was so glaringly obvious that it was awful.)

    These guys can’t even admit that their idols might have chosen a bad video editor. You could imagine what would happen if I’ve said the music was bad.

  4. bains says:

    I hope you didnt take that as a snark. I was actually thinking of a conversation I had with had different tastes in music (as well as politics) than I. After that I realized that it was unfair of both of us to castigate the other’s choice (I was arguing the merits of punk, she defended rap). She however, still refuses to see any merit in punk (and any political philosophy not socialistic). She has… blind faith in all her dogmatism.

  5. bains says:

    …with (insert) a potential girl friend who had different tastes in music…

  6. Robby says:

    No, I didn’t take it as snark. I thought it was a good point, one that I should claim to have thought of when I was writing it. Yes! I was making a very subtle and brilliant point about politics the whole time! Sadly, that’s not true.

    As for your socialist punk-hating potential girlfriend…wow. That’s an interesting combination, since there’s a lot of punk rock that is markedly socialist/lefty in its politics, whereas rap seems to me to predominantly celebrate naked capitalism (gettin’ paid, gettin’ rich).

    That is, of course, a broad generalization, and is not meant to be evaluative in any case.

  7. I Pissed Bob Dylan off on July 18th 1981 in Germany.
    He was going through his self righteous teetotaler stage in his life and was into gospel and God.He was not smoking pot at the time.
    I happened to be going through my obnoxious Drunk GI Stage in My life and happened to be at His Concert.
    I kept on yelling over and over again
    “Play everyboby must get stoned”
    I have a deep booming voice and was relentless and Hella drunk.
    He finally stopped what he was doing looked right at me and said

    “Hey Buddy I don’t play that song anymore and I would appreciate it if you Shut Up(STFU actually).”

    Hey I did what anyone would would do when Bob Dylan Castrated me with one swipe I capitulated and said “OK” with a much less deep tone to it my friends told me later.They laughed their ass off.
    Rock and Roll memories.
    What I can Remember
    DogEatDogma.blogspot.com

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

*

You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>