Comments on: Ann Coulter and Little Greenwald’s Footballs: Revised as a Carnival of Fisking -New Submissions 3:45 PM CST, March 4th http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2007/03/03/ann-coulter-and-little-greenwald%e2%80%99s-footballs-revised-as-a-carnival-of-fisking/ Questions through the veil of ignorance Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:33:25 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: A Second Hand Conjecture » New addition to the Greenwald Carnival of Fisking http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2007/03/03/ann-coulter-and-little-greenwald%e2%80%99s-footballs-revised-as-a-carnival-of-fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-36044 A Second Hand Conjecture » New addition to the Greenwald Carnival of Fisking Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:09:23 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=567#comment-36044 [...] read it as characterized even if they do click through. I have discussed this in more detail in the first post of our carnival, please enjoy poking around (some are quite funny, especially [...] [...] read it as characterized even if they do click through. I have discussed this in more detail in the first post of our carnival, please enjoy poking around (some are quite funny, especially [...]

]]> By: David http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2007/03/03/ann-coulter-and-little-greenwald%e2%80%99s-footballs-revised-as-a-carnival-of-fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-24868 David Sun, 04 Mar 2007 20:49:50 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=567#comment-24868 Cool. If it makes it to Webster's, I'll have something to tell the grandkids. "Grandpa, what did YOU do during the War in Iraq?" "Well, darlin', let me grab a few pairs of socks and tell you a story..." Cool.

If it makes it to Webster’s, I’ll have something to tell the grandkids.

“Grandpa, what did YOU do during the War in Iraq?”

“Well, darlin’, let me grab a few pairs of socks and tell you a story…”

]]> By: Lance http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2007/03/03/ann-coulter-and-little-greenwald%e2%80%99s-footballs-revised-as-a-carnival-of-fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-24867 Lance Sun, 04 Mar 2007 20:39:39 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=567#comment-24867 Done. I will use as appropriate from now on. Done. I will use as appropriate from now on.

]]> By: David http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2007/03/03/ann-coulter-and-little-greenwald%e2%80%99s-footballs-revised-as-a-carnival-of-fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-24866 David Sun, 04 Mar 2007 20:30:58 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=567#comment-24866 I think the best tribute to Greenwald would be a push to establish that the collective noun for sock puppets be henceforth known as a "glenn". as in "That blogger created a literal glenn of sock puppets to echo her beliefs." I think the best tribute to Greenwald would be a push to establish that the collective noun for sock puppets be henceforth known as a “glenn”.

as in

“That blogger created a literal glenn of sock puppets to echo her beliefs.”

]]> By: Lance http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2007/03/03/ann-coulter-and-little-greenwald%e2%80%99s-footballs-revised-as-a-carnival-of-fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-24805 Lance Sun, 04 Mar 2007 15:03:37 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=567#comment-24805 Thanks Monster. I'll fix that. Thanks Monster. I’ll fix that.

]]> By: The Monster http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2007/03/03/ann-coulter-and-little-greenwald%e2%80%99s-footballs-revised-as-a-carnival-of-fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-24704 The Monster Sun, 04 Mar 2007 03:34:45 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=567#comment-24704 It's "Charles Johnson". Note the conspicuous absence of the letter "t". It’s “Charles Johnson”. Note the conspicuous absence of the letter “t”.

]]> By: Lance http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2007/03/03/ann-coulter-and-little-greenwald%e2%80%99s-footballs-revised-as-a-carnival-of-fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-24701 Lance Sun, 04 Mar 2007 03:00:55 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=567#comment-24701 <blockquote>that one side has a scrupulous regard for the truth and the other thinks there is no such thing as truth, only power and manipulation.</blockquote> Well I guess we disagree, but I will gladly accept any appropriate sock puppet material for inclusion anyway. As I said, we don't have to agree on everything.

that one side has a scrupulous regard for the truth and the other thinks there is no such thing as truth, only power and manipulation.

Well I guess we disagree, but I will gladly accept any appropriate sock puppet material for inclusion anyway. As I said, we don’t have to agree on everything.

]]> By: Lance http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2007/03/03/ann-coulter-and-little-greenwald%e2%80%99s-footballs-revised-as-a-carnival-of-fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-24700 Lance Sun, 04 Mar 2007 02:57:37 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=567#comment-24700 Yeah, I have to agree McQ, Paris has some virtues. <blockquote> Controversy is the mother’s milk of media notoriety</blockquote> Actually I have considered that. Address his arguments or try snd ignore him? I guess I have chosen to let him become the Paris Hilton. Famous for being what he is, but not taken seriously as anything more than a Paranoid conspiracy monger. Yeah, I have to agree McQ, Paris has some virtues.

Controversy is the mother’s milk of media notoriety

Actually I have considered that. Address his arguments or try snd ignore him? I guess I have chosen to let him become the Paris Hilton. Famous for being what he is, but not taken seriously as anything more than a Paranoid conspiracy monger.

]]> By: Alec Rawls http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2007/03/03/ann-coulter-and-little-greenwald%e2%80%99s-footballs-revised-as-a-carnival-of-fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-24699 Alec Rawls Sun, 04 Mar 2007 02:56:11 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=567#comment-24699 Absurd. Ann a bit of bombast and likes to tweak noses but she always gets her facts right. Her book Treason--a very important book--is a model for making only those claims that are scrupulously supported by the evidence. This is the key difference between left and right: not that one side stylistically more circumspect than the other, but that one side has a scrupulous regard for the truth and the other thinks there is no such thing as truth, only power and manipulation. In this only respect that matters, Ann Coulter and the boys from Brazil are polar opposites. Absurd. Ann a bit of bombast and likes to tweak noses but she always gets her facts right. Her book Treason–a very important book–is a model for making only those claims that are scrupulously supported by the evidence. This is the key difference between left and right: not that one side stylistically more circumspect than the other, but that one side has a scrupulous regard for the truth and the other thinks there is no such thing as truth, only power and manipulation. In this only respect that matters, Ann Coulter and the boys from Brazil are polar opposites.

]]> By: McQ http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2007/03/03/ann-coulter-and-little-greenwald%e2%80%99s-footballs-revised-as-a-carnival-of-fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-24689 McQ Sun, 04 Mar 2007 01:15:42 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=567#comment-24689 <blockquote>I would advise against making Greenwald the Paris Hilton of the blogosphere.</blockquote> Good grief, linking Paris Hilton's name with Glenn Greenwald? What, are you trying to give Hilton a bad name? Great article, Lance.

I would advise against making Greenwald the Paris Hilton of the blogosphere.

Good grief, linking Paris Hilton’s name with Glenn Greenwald? What, are you trying to give Hilton a bad name?

Great article, Lance.

]]> By: Cadillac Tight - The older I get, the better I was » New blogroll http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2007/03/03/ann-coulter-and-little-greenwald%e2%80%99s-footballs-revised-as-a-carnival-of-fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-24687 Cadillac Tight - The older I get, the better I was » New blogroll Sun, 04 Mar 2007 00:59:33 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=567#comment-24687 [...] Update: And Lance goes me one better — A carnival! [...] [...] Update: And Lance goes me one better — A carnival! [...]

]]> By: Mick Stockinger http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2007/03/03/ann-coulter-and-little-greenwald%e2%80%99s-footballs-revised-as-a-carnival-of-fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-24684 Mick Stockinger Sun, 04 Mar 2007 00:18:28 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=567#comment-24684 I have to ask you what your objective is. If you want to make Greenwald famous and widely read, then by all means fisk every word. Controversy is the mother's milk of media notoriety, which is why starlets have omitted underwear from their wardrobes. Its the Paris Hilton factor--a completely talentless chick achieves fame and wealth solely by virtue of media attention. My paper resolved not to print any stories about her for a week and then asked if we missed her--no one did. If the media was prepared to continue to ignore her, she would simply fade back into obscurity. I would advise against making Greenwald the Paris Hilton of the blogosphere. I have to ask you what your objective is. If you want to make Greenwald famous and widely read, then by all means fisk every word. Controversy is the mother’s milk of media notoriety, which is why starlets have omitted underwear from their wardrobes.

Its the Paris Hilton factor–a completely talentless chick achieves fame and wealth solely by virtue of media attention. My paper resolved not to print any stories about her for a week and then asked if we missed her–no one did. If the media was prepared to continue to ignore her, she would simply fade back into obscurity.

I would advise against making Greenwald the Paris Hilton of the blogosphere.

]]> By: stevesh http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2007/03/03/ann-coulter-and-little-greenwald%e2%80%99s-footballs-revised-as-a-carnival-of-fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-24682 stevesh Sun, 04 Mar 2007 00:13:27 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=567#comment-24682 Both the lady and the Glenntleman employ the "by all means necessary" approach. But the question at hand is whom is the true "authoritarian?" Authoritarian, in this case, with a Stalinist flavor. One sells books with vitriol, outrageous hyperbole and, this is important, a lot of insouciant humor. The other, without even the ghost of a smile (although he is a <em>pouge</em>), sells despair, bad faith, and the end of the world as we know it. Neither is particularly honest. Blyth Ann knows she's pulling your leg but doesn't care. The Glennt knows he's pulling your leg but cares existentially. As Wuzzadem illustrates so well above (and BTW, way ahead of this news cycle), I say the Glenntleman gets the Uncle Joe moustache. Thanks for Carnival, and Good Day to you, sir! Both the lady and the Glenntleman employ the “by all means necessary” approach. But the question at hand is whom is the true “authoritarian?” Authoritarian, in this case, with a Stalinist flavor.

One sells books with vitriol, outrageous hyperbole and, this is important, a lot of insouciant humor. The other, without even the ghost of a smile (although he is a pouge), sells despair, bad faith, and the end of the world as we know it.

Neither is particularly honest. Blyth Ann knows she’s pulling your leg but doesn’t care. The Glennt knows he’s pulling your leg but cares existentially.

As Wuzzadem illustrates so well above (and BTW, way ahead of this news cycle), I say the Glenntleman gets the Uncle Joe moustache.

Thanks for Carnival, and Good Day to you, sir!

]]> By: Lance http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2007/03/03/ann-coulter-and-little-greenwald%e2%80%99s-footballs-revised-as-a-carnival-of-fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-24670 Lance Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:45:49 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=567#comment-24670 Heh, okay, but I want a full submission from you. This is a big task. Heh, okay, but I want a full submission from you. This is a big task.

]]> By: Eric Scheie http://asecondhandconjecture.com/index.php/2007/03/03/ann-coulter-and-little-greenwald%e2%80%99s-footballs-revised-as-a-carnival-of-fisking/comment-page-1/#comment-24668 Eric Scheie Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:43:43 +0000 http://asecondhandconjecture.com/?p=567#comment-24668 Wonderful! Absolutely wonderful! (And thanks for the link!) Wonderful! Absolutely wonderful! (And thanks for the link!)

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